The Conversations of Substance podcast series asks difficult questions and suggests multiple answers to complex issues around people’s health with respect to their substance use. CAPSA's guest interviews are conversational rather than confrontational but that doesn’t mean you won’t hear controversial ideas. Join them every two weeks for a new episode as we explore Conversations of Substance. In this episode, Keith Egli joins CAPSA host Gord Garner to discuss structural changes and next steps. Councillor Egli's participation in Getting to a New Tomorrow and the Ottawa Board of Health's recently released and announced two-year priorities of Mental Health and Substance Use Health speaks to change and focus.